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Posted: Saturday, September 22, 2012 12:29 am

YUCCA VALLEY — Town Council members on Tuesday, Sept. 18, set rules for a new dog park on Warren Vista Avenue.

Town staff said they researched ordinances for other cities and concluded that no child younger than 12 should be allowed inside fenced areas where dogs play unleashed.

“We researched rules, we met with the Parks, Recreation and Cultural Commission, we got expert input from our animal control staff … and came up with a set of rules we feel will be a very good start … so that animals and people can have an enjoyable time up there,” Jim Schooler, community services director for the town, said.

Under the ordinance, children under 12 will be able to attend the park and escort a dog, as long as it is leashed, but they cannot enter fenced dog play areas, even if accompanied by an adult.

Mayor Pro Tem Merl Abel said he thought keeping young children out of the dog play areas was a good precautionary measure.

“If you’ve gone over to the park, there are plenty of viewing areas there, so a 12-year-old could still participate in coming to the park with their dog and so forth, and they could participate in playing in the playground and being outside the fenced areas,” Abel said. “You never know who is going to be there with their dog and if something should happen, it would be too late to rescue your child from that situation.”

The new park will also set a limit on the number of dogs a person can bring.

Abel and Mayor Dawn Rowe suggested amending the ordinance to allow a handler to bring up to four dogs to the park at one time, rather than two dogs, which the original language suggested.

Town Manager Mark Nuaimi said allowing a person to bring more than two dogs could create a hazard if an owner loses track of a dog in a large park.

Rowe said dog owners bring three and four dogs at a time to Machris Park without any problems.

The new park is set to open next month.

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  • Bob Mateski posted at 5:04 pm on Tue, Oct 2, 2012.

    Bob Mateski Posts: 313

    It would be a good idea to start bringing those plastic bags with you that you get from stores, sometimes dog parks run out in their dispensers.
    God forbid animal control spots you not picking up after your dog, you would get a costly citation even if the dog park is out of plastic bags.
    I keep some in my car trunk and will on occasion tie a bag full onto the fence for others to use, it is the good neighbor policy that keeps the ticket writers at bay.

  • puptent posted at 11:12 pm on Sun, Sep 30, 2012.

    puptent Posts: 122

    PS..... the dog park cannot stop a disabled person from coming to the park with their service dog whether or not the dog is spayed or neutered. ADA compliance.

  • puptent posted at 11:08 pm on Sun, Sep 30, 2012.

    puptent Posts: 122

    I think that muzzles should be required for dogs who visit the dog park.

  • worksmart posted at 10:38 am on Sun, Sep 30, 2012.

    worksmart Posts: 75

    Here we go, another great idea ( gov"t project ) causing discontent among the masses. Lets here it for more government. NOT!

  • Ray Lamb posted at 11:37 am on Thu, Sep 27, 2012.

    Ray Lamb Posts: 1

    I have Bernese Mountain Dogs, they are show dog and as show dogs not fixed.
    I just lost my dog Ch. Greggor Gift Given CD DB BDD TD, and was awarded the Bernese Mountain Dog of America "Versatile Berner" Award.
    1. Gregger was an intact male (and we still hope a great sire).
    2. The CH in front of his name means he was a AKC Champion.
    3 The CD after his name means he won his Companion Dog certification from the AKC (CD is a Obedience title) .
    4. The Titles of DD and BDD refer to Draft Titles (pulling carts), which mean he had to be in under the control of his handler at all times, think for himself, not be distracted be anything ( people, childern, animals, noises, movements.)
    5. The TD after his name means he was a Certified Therapy Dog, he was certified to go into Hospitals and Continuing Care Facilities as a Therapy Dog.

    The Towns rules have made it illegal for him or my other show dogs to go to the new dog park

  • Dave Peach posted at 8:08 am on Tue, Sep 25, 2012.

    Dave Peach Posts: 2998

    Constructing dog parks and an ill-managed dog shelter (see: suspicious funding, premature invoicing and immediate cost overruns) while declaring a "fiscal crisis" causes something to smell fishy in Denmark. ...and yet worse in Yucca Valley and throughout the Morongo Basin, if not all of San Bernardino County.

    Given Nuaimi's sense of wreck-o-nomics after leaving Fontana and Colton in states of devastation, and after being chased out of town with his tail between his legs, trusting him to spend our money wisely defies any sense.

    Until the town and town council (and or proper authority, assuming it exists locally) wises up and realizes they were sold a bill of goods, and replaces him with someone who is proven trustworthy prior to hiring, allowing Nuaimi access to additional revenue and control over enormous investments would be similarly or more inept and/or criminal.

    Determining which failing applies would demonstrate improvement and merit public trust.

    Conversely, everyone involved is just as inadequate, unworthy and/or guilty.

    *Meeting you was a pleasure, Mr. Merl. You seemed to be a decent person, in accordance with your reputation. Please take heed, spread the word and resolve this racket. Conversely, y'all are liable to go down with the captain.

  • CEO posted at 8:16 pm on Mon, Sep 24, 2012.

    CEO Posts: 385

    A committee of seven making decisions for the masses of Yucca Valley, central planning, oh how wonderful. And this town wants to increase the sales tax to spend on additional pet projects, vote NO on measure U.

    Rules: ■Small dogs weighing less than 25 pounds may enter play area for large dogs, but large dogs may not enter the fenced area for small dogs.

    A rocket scientist must of thought this rule up.

  • tomloret posted at 7:25 pm on Sun, Sep 23, 2012.

    tomloret Posts: 411

    Considering the emotional and cultural development of our community, I find this entire issue worthy of a compromise that suits all concerned...borrowed from J. Swift, to a degee....

    You see, the solution to all this needless controversy can be easily resolved once we adopt the principles of efficiency and apply the successful practices of bottom-line economics.

    To illustrate, Americans spend more than fifty billion dollars a year on pet food and considerably less than twenty billion per annum on baby food. Therefore, it makes pefect sense to replace the Animal control officers with IRS agents who can screen all those who bring their dogs to the upscale dog park and anyone caught making less than fifty thousand dollars a year will be given the option of turning their under twelve children into high quality dog food which kills two birds with one stone.

    First, we eliminate poverty by encouraging the least among us to contribute their fair share and also eliminate hunger by providing food vouchers in exchange for their family's meat products.

    Now that's an idea whose time has come.

  • damndawgers posted at 10:26 am on Sun, Sep 23, 2012.

    damndawgers Posts: 529

    As far as Paul Cook goes, he was made aware of this but never even had the courtesy of sending us back a note to tell us where to go! So all you veterans as I out there make sure you vote for him, yeah right, another mistake for this town! Respectfully, damndawgers.[ban]

  • damndawgers posted at 10:22 am on Sun, Sep 23, 2012.

    damndawgers Posts: 529

    Good Morning Mokk1, YES, these are the same two. plus 4 pups that survived from her litter of 7. Isn't this just going a little to far? Respectfully, damndawgers

  • damndawgers posted at 9:55 am on Sun, Sep 23, 2012.

    damndawgers Posts: 529

    Yo harleycpl, could you imagine if Mark Nuaimi spent over $50,000 on every dog situation, under Animals Control 's watch, just how long it would be before this town is broke, and 3.5 million on the dog park? Our dogs can go but our kids can't? Also these 2 dog parks where are they located, in the richie area's where you're not even allowed to park your car. Can you imagine if you are someone with a dog coming from the poorer side of town, just how those upity's would treat you as a person of let's say not as well off as they are? Why couldn't they have built a dog park on the older side of town, you know the one turning into a ghost town? Instead of a "You bring them, and we will keep them and kill them!" type of park? Or maybe our welcome signs should read, "Welcome to Nuaimi's Yucca Valley, the town of Dog Killers!"
    I could think of a lot better ways for the town to just throw $50,000 grand around as if it doesn't mean a thing. As for instance our lovely highway where after you go from one side of town to the other, you'll need an alignment or worse. Or maybe some sidewalks for our kids and dogs to be able to get to wherever more safely.or how about putting school buses back to work for the safety of our kids againsnt the child molesters the state keeps sending to our part of the stare? I can go on n on. Respectfully, damndawgers.

  • mokk1 posted at 9:45 am on Sun, Sep 23, 2012.

    mokk1 Posts: 290

    damndawgers, if these are the same dogs, sorry to hear.

  • harleycpl posted at 11:07 pm on Sat, Sep 22, 2012.

    harleycpl Posts: 123

    The Country is broke, the state is broke and the county is also broke and Yucca Valley has wasted money on a dog park? The money was more than likely borrowed from China, I am sure that money could have been better spent some where else.
    When a person gets bit at this park or charged at, who will be getting sued, the owner and/or the city? Will tax payer dollars be wasted to keep up this park? If a dog catcher is hanging out at the park, tax dollars are being wasted and the country does not have the money to waste on stupid stuff such as this.

  • knewb posted at 10:41 am on Sat, Sep 22, 2012.

    knewb Posts: 129

    Classic re-inventing the wheel. Where were the dog owners in this process?

  • damndawgers posted at 9:54 am on Sat, Sep 22, 2012.

    damndawgers Posts: 529

    If you don't beleive me then read the dog stories above just maybe that will change your minds as to what they are capable of doing to our loved ones, including allowing 2 dogs to mate that are labeled potentially dangerous? What happened to those 3 pups that supposedly died? Who's to say they did, or maybe they were the best 3 and put aside for other reasons? Who knows, I know Lovell doesn't for he hasn't even been allowed to see any of them to date.
    Also just who is responsible for the 3 that perished under their watch? Why wasn't Lovell told when she was giving birth? Why was he lied to about her having only 4 pups, no she had 7. They will only release the pups if he signs papers releasing them (a.c) of all libility? Yeah I bet they don't want to be liable although thanks to them she was allowed to breed, and now they don't want the responsability?
    Then they should have been released before all this could take place,. So man up to your mistakes Mark Nuaimi, It never had to get to where you've spent over $50,000 on this. You are a total disgrace to this community, and if you can't handle a dog situation, just what makes people think you can handle the town? Just curious "How much of that $50,000 is going to your pocket? I mean you did finally make one court appearance. And you certainly can't handle answering simple questions without loosing your temper and showing off your power to the bad and spending the towns money??? Still wondering just how he may have bankrupted 2 other towns? Also how much were you paid to cancel Lovells visits and going over a judges head in this case? Mad as heck, and i don't think we should have to take this from you Mark Nuaimi anymore! Wake up folks, it's time to smell the roses!!![ban]

  • damndawgers posted at 9:36 am on Sat, Sep 22, 2012.

    damndawgers Posts: 529

    It figures I get to be the first one to comment on the dog park.[wink] HHhhhmmmnn, well let's see "No kids will be allowed in the park under 12 years old? But yet will be allowed to be on the outside of the fenced areas with their dog on a leash? Won't it be just as dangerous for the kids if a dog fight should arise, and let's say the child is afraid of letting go of the leash in fear of his dog being taken by animal control and then labeled as "Potentially Dangerous" and never getting the dog back? Or getting bit because he didn't let go and ends up in the middle of the fight? Again being afraid of letting loose and loosing a loved one to animal control. Also if animal control is going to be hanging around checking on liscenses and shot records and to see if they are spayed or nuetered or they can't use the dog park. What if your dof is a show dog and by their standards are not suppose to be nuetered or spayed?
    they can't enjoy the park due to that? Now if animal control is hanging out at the park, you better hope your dog doesn't bark or growl at anyone or you could be looking at a high fine, or possibly not getting your dog back if you can't afford to pay.
    It has become apparent that animal control can label your dogs as dangerous or viscious just upon their word? I guess that's one way to pay for the park. So be sure you go at your own risk, you may go to the park with a dog or 4, but you may go home with none? What a way to have you cornered and there isn't anything you can do or say about what just happened, unless of course you can come up with a couple of grand to get your loved ones back, if you even get them back! This dog park just may not be the greatest idea for our dogs, it makes it to easy for animal control to violate your rights and your animals rights to life and freedom. My opinion only, damndawgers..[thumbdown]


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