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Posted: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:09 pm

YUCCA VALLEY— Planning commissioners learned Tuesday that Marshalls and Petco are interested in developing here.

Shane Stueckle, deputy town manager, said the town’s planning department will address pre-application inquiries next week with a development company that wants to build a Marshalls clothing store and Petco pet supply store on the Home Depot lot on the east end of town.

Stueckle said no plans are in place yet, but both chain retailers have looked at Yucca Valley’s demographics and expressed interest in building there.

The town will inform the developer of what requirements and regulations the buildings would have to meet to comply with town building standards. From there, the developer could decide to proceed with an application to develop.

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  • Biff Mcgee posted at 11:22 am on Wed, Jul 17, 2013.

    Biff Mcgee Posts: 36

    If the HUGE CROWDS at the opening of Wally World Super Center are any indication, Yucca Valley needs more box stores!!!

  • Dave Peach posted at 7:09 am on Wed, Jul 17, 2013.

    Dave Peach Posts: 2998

    " I don't know much about them, but most likely they would be a good thing to have in Yucca Valley." - EDJM

    Heh. Much the same sentiments were expressed about Mark Nuaimi and C.O.R.E..
    Means of discovering more about each appears rather handy and would seem similarly prudent.

    Should the still withheld potential special election candidates, which hardly garners much trust or confidence but rather assures the opposite, appoint Mr. Montgomery to the planning commission in exchange for politicking on their behalf, another recall would seem no less appropriate and maybe more so.

  • EDJM posted at 1:28 pm on Tue, Jul 16, 2013.

    EDJM Posts: 434

    I am personally looking forward to see Marshalls built here, I think that there similar to JCPenney, as far as Petco, I don't know much about them, but most likely they would be a good thing to have in Yucca Valley.

    The main the main reason I like them is because they will create jobs. There's a lot of low income people that need jobs. So anything for new jobs . I think that's a good idea for the economy and the people of Yucca Valley.

  • Dave Peach posted at 5:28 am on Mon, Jul 15, 2013.

    Dave Peach Posts: 2998

    When decent jobs are lost to indecent jobs and scarce money is blown on uneconomic convenience, impoverished folks are only made more numerous.

    Encouraging more commercial and population growth, which is often inversely proportional to economic development and especially when doing so sacrifices economic drivers such as locally critical tourism, without first assuring adequate resources and infrastructure, which is economically foolhardy, the lightly considered notion is only otherwise noble.

  • alcauley19 posted at 10:40 am on Sun, Jul 14, 2013.

    alcauley19 Posts: 1

    I am always amazed that the comments on these articles get outrageous and are so far off topic. After scrolling through the comment section I forgot what this little article was even about.

    Why hasn't anybody mentioned the job possibilities that these two retail stores bring to the table. These two retailers would provide countless jobs in the community. That is something everyone should be thankful for. When I lived in Yucca Valley, I had to commute down to Palm Springs, and even as far as Indio, to find employment outside of Wal-Mart, grocery stores or fast food.

    I do, however, agree with one of the comments below. These retailers should look to see if there are any vacant buildings in Yucca that may be able to suit their needs with some renovation. This would eat up some of the "ghost town" feel I experienced earlier this month when I was back in town for a visit. It would probably win over a few of the sticklers who hate all that is new!

  • idavidgraficks posted at 7:10 pm on Fri, Jul 12, 2013.

    idavidgraficks Posts: 992

    The topic was about Marshalls and Petco, not Walmart SuperCenter, Dollar General or Solyndra. A majority of the Morongo Basin residents knew the Walmart SuperCenter wouldn't bring anything different to the Morongo basin that we don't already have here. The Yucca Valley residents in general fall for the BIG SHINY NEW. That's why Yucca Valley now has traffic problems, signals galore, redundant fast food shopping, growing vacant retail space glut, lack of sustainable water supply and in BAD Need of a sewer project. Do you want to try again?

  • jgc760 posted at 3:33 pm on Fri, Jul 12, 2013.

    jgc760 Posts: 85

    I beg to differ with you Mr. Fick, I was at the town council meetings in which you opposed the Walmart Supercenter, you were involved in the petition drive to stop it, and the lawsuit against it. You finally admitted in your comments on Dollar General that the difference between it in JT and Super Walmart is that the residents wanted Yucca Valley residents wanted Wal Mart.

    The solyndra comment is very appropriate because you folks are trying to dictate winners and losers by supressing competition. Your pentagon comment is completely irelevant and off topic.

  • idavidgraficks posted at 1:14 pm on Fri, Jul 12, 2013.

    idavidgraficks Posts: 992

    jgc760, re-read my comment, I'm not choosing anything for anybody. I said "It's a shame....." Then you throw in a completely non-issue item of Solyndra. The Pentagon miss-places (un-accounted to it's whereabouts) about that amount of money (about $500 million dollars) every week. Try and stay to topic and carefully read comments.

  • Tim Humphreville posted at 12:39 pm on Fri, Jul 12, 2013.

    Tim Humphreville Posts: 138

    Going back about twenty years or so, the Historical society was running the museum, along with some other non-profit groups, for what ever reasons they could no longer run and collect the money to keep it open, so like the pool at the high school, the town stepped in to help, It has been awhile, so I don't know the exact numbers or the years, but this is close, you can always look it up. There were several years early on that the town was paying over 300,000 dollars, then it went to about 270,000 for many years till the recent councils cut it back to 250,000 then to the current 230,000, till just the recent cut for this years budget, This town has just 20,000 people, how the budget for a museum stayed that high for so long is just amazing to me! The really funny part is that during this time we were paying this horrendous amount, Bob Leone, and Lori Herbel, were on the council, Now they somehow want to say how we need fiscal change in the community? At the same time they were paying a town manger OVER 325,000 dollars! Please people, Take the time to get accurate information, There is so much mis-information being pushed around right now, by the small group of people trying to collect signatures for the recall! Refuse to be part of their destruction of Yucca Valley.

  • Bob Mateski posted at 11:36 am on Fri, Jul 12, 2013.

    Bob Mateski Posts: 314

    Instead of building another large structure, why doesn't Yucca Valley mention the option to these companies of buying the old Wal-Mart building?
    Less start up costs if you already have a standing building and all of the infrastructure, it sure would make more sense than starting from scratch.

  • MorongoBasinOmbudsman posted at 11:28 am on Fri, Jul 12, 2013.

    MorongoBasinOmbudsman Posts: 497

    Draft and adopted budgets for the Town are readily available either on the Town website ( or by inquiry to Finance Director Curtis Yakimow

    The baseline proposed budget for FY 2013-14 shows expected sales tax revenues of $3,010,000 (see "stamped page 31"/PDF page 49 of

    MBO provides "text-searchable" versions of the entire /pdf/finance/ directory at : [ETA 1PM today]

  • jgc760 posted at 10:47 am on Fri, Jul 12, 2013.

    jgc760 Posts: 85

    Mr. Fick, if you don't like it don't shop there, but it is the epitomy of arrogance to make that decision for others. When goverment choses winners and losers we end up with half a billion in losses of taxpayers dollars in companies like solyndra.

  • idavidgraficks posted at 9:52 am on Fri, Jul 12, 2013.

    idavidgraficks Posts: 992

    It's a shame that corporate formula franchise is now chasing down the successful family owned feed and pet stores. One of the rare fields of retail sales that are quite competitive and ran by animal loving people. Now heartless Petco is chasing down the lions share of those product sales and more money and jobs leave the Morongo basin. The Marshalls would be welcomed because the actual retail sales leakage of the Morongo Basin is clothing sales. As far as sales tax goes, the Town of Yucca Valley will rarely let the public know about it's sales tax revenues and are generally quite mum about that issue, so Mr. Timmy, go ahead and tell us.

  • Dave Peach posted at 9:18 am on Fri, Jul 12, 2013.

    Dave Peach Posts: 2998

    When the blind are entrusted to bull the blind, internal and outside sources become required and uniquely responsible to help alleviate local and more widespread damages. CalTrans doesn't require any stoplights where detrimental urban sprawl and chain drain doesn't occur. Better to remain silent and be known a fool than to again open one's mouth and again... thanks again, Timmy! (inside joke in more ways than one; but now down to four jokes out of five and still increasingly gratifying plus less costly)

    *Yucca Valley Sales Tax - 8.00%
    *San Bernardino - 8.00%
    *All California Sales Tax Rates - 8.00%

    *Sales tax rates increased to 8.25% during the last election as opposed to 9.25%, had Yucca Valley voters approved a municipal sales tax, which has never yet occurred - but is becoming increasingly unavoidable but still won't occur until more competent and trustworthy officials are made available through fairer election and adequate appointment reforms. Good luck and better riddance.

  • Mike posted at 9:01 am on Fri, Jul 12, 2013.

    Mike Posts: 697

    - “CHURLISHNESS” – …? …wow, isn't that a little over the top Dude?

    Churlish - difficult to work with, difficult to deal with, boorish, vulgar, surly, sullen, serf like, peasant like, niggardly, mean, intractable, austere, rough, selfish, narrow-minded, avaricious, grudging, cross-grained, harsh, hard, obstinate, ill-mannered , ill-tempered, indisposition to kindness or courtesy, unmanageable, unfeeling, uncivil, ungracious, unfriendly, unpleasant, unpliant, unyielding, rude, crude and stingy,

    “Sadism and churlishness becomes no one.” …Yeah, I reckon not Fritz!

  • joetheplumber posted at 8:29 am on Fri, Jul 12, 2013.

    joetheplumber Posts: 438

    I agree with D-Racer. The pet store next to Vons stocks all the supplies I need and Walmart has everything else. As for a decent clothing store, Yucca Valley does need one. I would welcome Marshals.

  • MorongoBasinOmbudsman posted at 6:54 am on Fri, Jul 12, 2013.

    MorongoBasinOmbudsman Posts: 497

    Sadism and churlishness becomes no one.

  • Tim Humphreville posted at 8:51 pm on Thu, Jul 11, 2013.

    Tim Humphreville Posts: 138

    Gee,Fritz, Maybe you should be man enough, to just use you name, so as we don't have to keep up with all the nick names around here! I am well aware that you live here in Yucca Valley, as you are so famous for the battles you have with your neighbors. Please pardon me for the mistake!

  • Tim Humphreville posted at 8:49 pm on Thu, Jul 11, 2013.

    Tim Humphreville Posts: 138

    Gadabout, How much do you think the town spends per year on the museum ? Please take a guess, And then I will let you know, my bet is you will be shocked! Yes I am sure! Every time The Village of Joshua Tree pushes away another possible businesses, It makes me smile knowing the town of Yucca Valley will be collecting some more of their tax money!

  • gadabout posted at 7:47 pm on Thu, Jul 11, 2013.

    gadabout Posts: 16

    3 million in sales tax revenue? Are you sure? If that were so the town wouldn't have fired all those people or cut all those programs or the museum hours or gone begging for fireworks money. I think I was right.

  • MorongoBasinOmbudsman posted at 3:34 pm on Thu, Jul 11, 2013.

    MorongoBasinOmbudsman Posts: 497

    Rebutting Tim Humphreville's surprise reckless and false assertions: MBO has said nothing about the size of the existing sales tax revenue, nor has it said anything about what entity "requires" signals on Highway 62, MBO is certainly not "from out of town" but resides in Yucca Valley, etc. etc. etc.

    Mr. Humphreyville may in the future provide citations (as does MBO now) to *peer-reviewed* urban design treatises which apply to the development of our little Western Frontier town of Yucca Valley and the Morongo Basin in order that the "uninformed" be protected from predators. Or he may not.

    As Samples:

    Context-Sensitive Signage Design

    And from much lesser authority:

    Context-Sensitive Signage Design

  • Tim Humphreville posted at 2:22 pm on Thu, Jul 11, 2013.

    Tim Humphreville Posts: 138

    I just can't get enough of the entertainment from some of the comments posted here. Branson ,Peach, Fick, MBO, and the like, not only are they from out of town, but take advantage of uninformed people in this community! They know that the sales tax revenue for the town is over three million dollars. It is just to their liking to leave people thinking otherwise. Just like they are aware that it is cal-trans that requires the signals on HWY 62. But that does not fit the discontent they wish to spread. I beg of anyone reading they horse manure they put out to find out the real information before forming a opinion.

  • District37Racer posted at 1:36 pm on Thu, Jul 11, 2013.

    District37Racer Posts: 291

    Is there really a need for a huge pet store? In all the decades ive been here and parents been here we have never once had to go down the hill for pet supplies. I just see more small businesses closing because of it. Not familiar with Marshals so ill refrain from passing judgment .

  • gadabout posted at 8:53 am on Thu, Jul 11, 2013.

    gadabout Posts: 16

    Yucca Valley's 2013/14 budget included $3,050 sales tax revenue.

  • MorongoBasinOmbudsman posted at 8:09 am on Thu, Jul 11, 2013.

    MorongoBasinOmbudsman Posts: 497

    For an alternative view of Better as opposed to Bigger:

    "Fodor quotes Oregon environmentalist Andy Kerr, who calls urban growth, "a pyramid scheme in which a relatively few make a killing, some others make a living, but most [of us] pay for it." As long as there is a killing to be made, no tepid "smart-growth" measures are going to stop sprawl. We will go on having strips and malls and cookie-cutter subdivisions and traffic jams and rising taxes as long as someone makes money from them."

    How to Take Control of Urban Growth and Improve Your Community
    By Eben V. Fodor

  • Dave Peach posted at 7:44 am on Thu, Jul 11, 2013.

    Dave Peach Posts: 2998

    Yucca Valley, nor any other community within the Morongo Basin collects any sales tax. Nor are any likely to be trusted to do so until the mismanagement and self-concerns that have made more taxes increasingly unavoidable are overcome.

    Local residents who are unsatisfied with what the Morongo Basin has to offer, which includes most everything anyone could need - other than various basic community necessities, should go "down the hill" and perhaps permanently. "All those cars" would have remained less apparent if they weren't gridlocked by 'greed, gluttony and slovenliness', which in addition to causing congestion plus economic and environmental loss is sometimes reported to be sinful.

    As portions of our area continue to grow uncontrollably, unwisely and detrimentally, population increases including other predominantly low-income factions will encourage other predatory intruders to take control and increasingly remove our remaining economy and environment.

    "More residents will increase our tax base", proclaimed the confused chamber president who ironically opposes other sources of resource depletion, perhaps because it pertains to personal inconvenience. If our economy were developed rather than hampered, most anything that anyone could want would instead become increasingly affordable; including still inadequate basic necessities.

  • knewb posted at 7:54 pm on Wed, Jul 10, 2013.

    knewb Posts: 135

    Sure would be nice to have a sales tax on all these big box stores if people are coming from all over the high desert. Yucca Valley residents could be exempt by address.

  • pswa83 posted at 5:21 pm on Wed, Jul 10, 2013.

    pswa83 Posts: 2

    IF this actually goes through (and i would be VERY VERY surprised if it does) then it would be great!! not only would it bring in more tax money but it would offer more jobs. which in yucca is badly needed.

  • Branson Hunter posted at 3:34 pm on Wed, Jul 10, 2013.

    Branson Hunter Posts: 1123

    Petco prices are not competitive. They overcharge bigtime on their stock. Yucca Valley has already become a carbon copy of any other commercially blighted town or city in LA or Orange County.Yucca Valley's rural attraction, its environment, and physical beauty is long gone. So too is its once famous charm. Just look what the town leadership has done to Y.V.

  • CHESTY posted at 3:19 pm on Wed, Jul 10, 2013.

    CHESTY Posts: 43

    Finally a pet store that supplies all kinda of more going down the hill wasting time and gas...and giving money to the low desert....can't wait to hear from the zombies how this will kill small pet stores and the Hammer of the losers race....

  • gunnymom posted at 2:15 pm on Wed, Jul 10, 2013.

    gunnymom Posts: 34

    Yes, this would be great. Especially in this animal loving community. We really do need
    a national chain pet store. Love it. I was in Yucca Valley today and the TRAFFIC levels are amazing. Where did all these cars come from and where are they going ??? It was almost like an LA traffic jam...Has the number of residents increased ? The ' old' Walmart store was almost empty along with the shelves.......However, so many cars/trucks on the road make me take notice.


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