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Town’s council, managers have proven they are trustworthy

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Posted: Saturday, October 6, 2012 5:30 am

Having served on an early Town Council, I am often blown away by all the statements of distrust! if you don’t trust the Town Council, please attend council meetings and watch what these people are doing for our community. We have a number of improvement projects under way in Yucca Valley, all thanks to the planning and leadership of this Town Council and their management team. They positioned Yucca Valley to be competitive and today we’re being rewarded with investments from other agencies. Here are a few examples for you:

1. Councilman George Huntington and Town Manager Mark Nuaimi were able to bring home approximately $1.7 million from the county transportation commission (SANBAG). Were it not for the wise planning of the town, we wouldn’t have had projects shelf-ready to use these funds. Were it not for the relationships these men have throughout our region, I suspect we would not have been so successful in getting these funds. Those funds will help deliver over a mile of sidewalk and transportation safety improvements, from Town Hall to Old Town.

2. It appears likely that the town is going to be delivering 75 units of affordable senior housing next to Town Hall. This project wouldn’t have happened where it not for the investment the town made in selecting a development partner and preparing the specific plan. That project alone is going to bring over $15 million of investment to the town.

3. In less than a month, the Southside Park project will be open to the public. The Town Council was able to bring that project to the community using federal, county, and development impact funds.

4. The town staff went after state Safe Routes to School money to deliver sidewalks from the high school to Twentynine Palms High School. They were successful and that project will be delivered in the coming year.

This Town Council and management team have shown success in leveraging other agency funding. They have also shown that they are frugal with our local tax dollars. They implemented pension reform long before the state decided to tackle the issue. They maintained balanced budgets throughout the Great Recession, while a number of cities across the state are declaring bankruptcy. Now they come to us with Measure U and suggest that this is the right solution for difficult challenges. I agree and I suggest that people start becoming part of the solution rather than part of the politics being played in town.

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  • damndawgers posted at 8:35 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    damndawgers Posts: 529

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  • damndawgers posted at 8:31 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    damndawgers Posts: 529

    for those interested, Dakota n Blaze n thier 4 pups are now in the safety of thier home...[beam][offtopic] thanks, dawgers.

  • Dave Peach posted at 3:08 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    Dave Peach Posts: 2998

    " If the proper taxes on building had been in place beginning in the 1980s there would be no problem now. Instead the town father's headed by the Lords of the Kingdom of Hagerman worked it so they didn't have to pay the fees for the little urban world they were planning. The cash is in the pockets of the developers, the Kingdom of Hagerman, and every homeowner who was allowed to skate in infrastructure fees." - desert lily

    State agencies who were and are tasked with preventing contamination, but failed to do so, also allowed sewage costs to be unconscionably and harmfully deferred and deflected. Various conflicts of interest were/are allowed to go on unobstructed.

    Local profiteers are as anxious to bury the skeletons as various state officials. Exposing the villains and holding them accountable could reduce the costs to innocent parties much more so than allowing the same villains more "freebies".

    Speaking of "villains", would you buy a used car from Mark Nuaimi? If so, you'd deserve whatever you'd get, while Nuaimi will undoubtedly be found guilty of similar scams. Allowing various investigations to be concluded before signing on as an accomplice could preclude appearing like a village idiot, etc..

  • don krouse posted at 12:31 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    don krouse Posts: 155

    Ivan Boesky, Bernie Madoff, Alan Stanford,Charles Ponzi.

    All greatly trusted until their creative management squandered everything for their own benefit until imprisoned.

  • desert lily posted at 12:18 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    desert lily Posts: 233

    Measure U? Looks like a set up for pilfering to me. That cash out to be in a dedicated, interest bearing fund. The town fathers have already shown themselves to be untrustworthy with the interest of the public welfare by allowing the contamination of their well water. I wouldn't trust them to make decisions about that money.

  • desert lily posted at 12:15 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    desert lily Posts: 233

    Oh CEO. you just don't get it. If the proper taxes on building had been in place beginning in the 1980s there would be no problem now. Instead the town father's headed by the Lords of the Kingdom of Hagerman worked it so they didn't have to pay the fees for the little urban world they were planning. The cash is in the pockets of the developers, the Kingdom of Hagerman, and every homeowner who was allowed to skate in infrastructure fees.

    If, as you suggest, there are no new taxes, how will you get your stolen water to Yucca or are you just gonna be happy drinking your own feces?

  • CEO posted at 11:56 am on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    CEO Posts: 385

    Desert lily lists some very sound reasons to vote NO on U! These politicians have enough of your hard earned money to play with. Vote No on all new tax's in California.

  • desert lily posted at 2:02 am on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    desert lily Posts: 233

    Trust me. I have a bridge construction project I want to sell you. It connects Yucca Valley with New York City. You gonna bite this one too, Ellin?

    I have been to the town meetings. I was there to watch public interest get flushed down the toilet - so to speak.

    I wondered who was responsible for the early tragedy that was Yucca. I wondered who so loved the developers that they encumbered future generations while the cash flowed into the pockets of the developers on the town council and big financial benefits flowed into the coffers of the Kingdom of Hagerman.

    Remember the Blue Ribbon Committee that had as its members all of the big developers like Mike Poland and it even had Frank Williams a construction lobbist? Remember how they all voted against adding the cost of the sewer to new construction, even as the reports of one poisoned well followed another?

    Now Yucca must steal water from their neighbors or drink their own fecal waste. I can see why you are so proud, Ellin. Why don't you propose a toast with a glass of tap water from well 17E, you know, it is one that the USGS tests for nitrates. Here is what the report says in part, "Nitrate concentrations in production well 17E (perforated from 450 to 800 ft below land surface and located near the west recharge pond) have increased from 20 mg/L as nitrate (NO3) in 1995 to 82 mg/L in 1999."

    Here is another interesting link for the interested.

    For a less technical explanation see

  • mokk1 posted at 6:07 pm on Mon, Oct 8, 2012.

    mokk1 Posts: 290

    Ha ha ha ha ha, I did not read the story, but the headline gave me a chuckle.

  • idavidgraficks posted at 11:56 am on Sun, Oct 7, 2012.

    idavidgraficks Posts: 894

    In 1995, Yucca Valley had a "vision statement" with their adopted General Plan. The YV Town Council members promise under oath to follow the General Plan. Other than former council member Lori Herbel, NONE of the YV Town Council members have followed that abandoned "vision statement"-NONE. Yucca Valley is trying to follow a failed model of growing out of it's problems. The great limiter is lack of water availability. Yucca Valley is going to be eating itself in commercial retail, as the population topped at 21,000. Now, with dwindling water supplies, the sewer assessment district looming and a backlog of infrastructure improvements needed, there is going to be a slow flight of upside down homeowners. There are many who tried to educate the Yucca Valley public on the continual bad decisions by the YV Town Council. The YV mindset that has controlled this simple fiscal degradation is also telling you to vote for this very compromised Measure "U". This Measure"U" just promotes an unsustainable growth model. If an additional sales tax ever succeeds, it should completely address Yucca Valley's dire need for a sewer treatment before Yucca Valley poisons itself.

  • CEO posted at 11:29 am on Sun, Oct 7, 2012.

    CEO Posts: 385

    "Trust me, I'm from the government and I'm here to help"

    Enough money for the poloticians, spend less, and sellidle assests

  • Dave Peach posted at 8:20 am on Sun, Oct 7, 2012.

    Dave Peach Posts: 2998

    After squandering more than one hundred million dollars on unnecessary projects, Nuaimi's style of management remains more and more ruinous.

    Pushing a measure to pay for his paybacks while delaying any means of funding the sewer irrefutably proves that Nuaimi's priorities are backward and wicked. Ignoring his past is nearly as pathetic as attempting to further his agendas.

  • damndawgers posted at 8:31 pm on Sat, Oct 6, 2012.

    damndawgers Posts: 529

    Town’s council, managers have proven they are trustworthy. That must be a misprint, i believe it should of said, Town’s council, managers have proven they are UN-trustworthy.
    You said they saved us millions balogny if anything its in thier banks. Spending over $50,000 on a dog issue is that frugal? I don't think so.
    Causing conflicts of interest is that trustworthy?
    Farmers Insurance Agent Jennifer Collins and Mark Nuaimi were caught causing a conflict of interest regarding the dog issue. Trustworthy, I don't think so, Nuaimi and his minions are a joke for our community. Why is old yucca town becoming a ghost town? The dog park another joke, sidewalks from 1 high school to another in 29 palms, really? Sorry not all but some in council are not trustworthy and Mark Nuaimi is one of them!!!

  • tomloret posted at 8:03 pm on Sat, Oct 6, 2012.

    tomloret Posts: 411

    What is learned in the pew does not, by itsel carry over well into the pee-yoo.

  • MorongoBasinOmbudsman posted at 5:06 pm on Sat, Oct 6, 2012.

    MorongoBasinOmbudsman Posts: 489


    I have attended numerous Town Council meetings as all council members since 2004 can attest.

    You have provided the evidence supporting an abject distrust of the current administration and governance of the Town of Yucca Valley for while the urgent paramount absolute necessity of building a solution to waste water treatment of this Town was literally trickling down an open vertical sewer line into our very own drinking water, the current administration was pursuing the poison teat of the sacred cash cow of "other people's money" to build what was NOT the top priority of the Town.

    Having suckled till that easy manna ran dry, they turn their mouth towards local mortal breasts of opportunity: the underpaid, undernourished, overworked, over taxed wet nurses of Yucca Valley: those who do not own the vast plantations of Joshua Trees and stucco clad structures, but rather the "sharecroppers" of Yucca Valley which the Yucca Valley system ensures will never obtain the American Dream imagined, and the retired elderly.

    The Town Council spent 10's of thousands for consultants to determine the true fair share for new development, about $17 per square foot. But the previous officials elected by the same voting block that has installed our current council officials decided to charge developers ZERO! The current officials report to the same masters and can be expected to serve those masters until systemic change is installed into this Town.

    Perhaps you are part of that voting block. Well one must ask the question, if the current administration is to be trusted, do you really think Home Depot and Walmart could not and would not have paid the $17 per square foot to claim the last remaining premium real estate in the area? Highly doubtful considering Yucca Valley has captured the ONLY MAJOR INTERSECTION of arterial roads in the entire Morongo Basin, AND the impact fees cost is eligible to a type of "rebate/tax credit" for other investments.

    Bottom line, the Yucca Valley Town Councils, this one and all of those since 1992 including the one you served on, COULD have established a special account for reserve for exactly this sewer project

    THEY ALL, past and present councils, SHIRKED the opportunity to do so. Why should we trust them with $160 million to do with as they wish?

    It is not enough to say we can vote them out later! That would occur AFTER they have done damage. There is no reason to "trust them" since there are systems of finance that can guarantee the money will be spent on the sewer project and nothing else. Once those are in place, we can vote on another initiative if we want for half a percent to perform all the additional infrastructure improvements at much less risk.

    Now, Town Manager Nuaimi has inveigled the emeritus such as yourself for a perpetuation of the half-baked, ill planned, and overreaching programs, by pleading nothing but "trust me."

    Whatever happened to Ronald Reagan's "Trust But Verify"?

  • Dave Peach posted at 1:42 pm on Sat, Oct 6, 2012.

    Dave Peach Posts: 2998

    Cashing in on government welfare is especially pleasing to parasites. Attempting to pry funding out of neighbors and visitors assures avoidance. Regarding Mark Nuaimi as trustworthy requires sensory deprivation and/or stupidity.

    Examining the state of decay in Fontana and why Nuaimi was found unqualified as the assistant manager of Colton contrasts with the uninformed or deceptive assurances above. "Relationships throughout the region" should be especially alarming, unless thoroughly ignorant regarding regional corruption and Nuaimi's personal/business relationships.

    The senior center was rejected by HUD commensurate with indictment of the former federal director and curtailment of C.O.R.E.s qualifications. Originally needing only twelve units for low-income families in order to qualify for often abused RDA funds such as in Fontana and Colton, the ultra-expensive and ill-situated anomaly had been omitted or hidden from recent lists of proposed expenditures. Flooding Yucca Valley with more residential units while foreclosures are still overwhelming irrefutably proves bad management or worse ethical standards.

    JSCC/Sky Harbor have traditionally been overly privileged and the dog park stands as an absurd example. Government welfare could be accumulated and invested rather than sucked up and squandered. Decrying government deficits and debts while causing them was common during the last decade but was never affordable or honorable, and is much less so presently.

    "Frugal"? Amid decaying and proposed unaffordable edifices, an ill-managed animal shelter, overpaid consultants and mounting legal fees, you must be joking.

  • Margo Sturges posted at 10:47 am on Sat, Oct 6, 2012.

    Margo Sturges Posts: 85

    Too bad there isn't a truth scan button attached before submission of letters to the Editor regarding authorship.

    Mrs. Loveless would not have all of this information having only recently attended a handful of council meetings in the last 45 days out of five years. Especially regarding the specifics of SANBAG.

    Additionally, bullet points or in this case numbered paragraphs is the hand print of Yucca Valley Town manager, Mark Nuaimi.

    Knowing this readers, go back and reread how glowing this letter is to the town manager, even naming him, and praising staff.

    "It appears likely" is the only inconsistency that Nuaimi would not use, however, YV Mayor, Dawn Rowe, used that same phrase at the HDWD Board meeting also in reference to the possible Senior Housing project citing 75 units.

    Flip a coin as to who is the real author.

    That is the problem with Measure U....all this deception. Shame on you Ellin, I am really disappointed.

    Vote No Measure U.


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