I know you Trump haters do not want to hear this, but it is of great importance that you understand why we cannot have a socialist party in the White House.

You Millenials need to realize that all these things the candidates are promising is absolutely impossible to pay for. The rich can only support money for a short time, and then what? They will tax the middle class until they break us. It will then be just the very wealthy politicians and us poor people.

You think socialism is the answer and I say look at Russia and Venezuela and any other communist or socialist country and see how the people are living.

The ’60s began ushering in the downfall of the U.S. beginning with taking prayer out of school. Praying never hurts anyone, even if you were an unbeliever. It gave encouragement, strength and something to believe in. The young people of today are not taught about God and heaven. They are taught they came from scum and the earth is going to be destroyed by climate change and what do they have to look forward to? No wonder they are a depressed generation. The government has taken our freedom of speech. They continuously keep us in racial tension. Capitalism has been the backbone of the U.S. and we have all benefited from it. Some people were more industrious than others and became very wealthy. We all have that opportunity, but not when socialism takes over; you can forget it.

… Open your eyes and see it happening to this wonderful country. They have taken so many of our rights away, using trickery, to make us believe it is for our own good.

The congressional Democrats and the left-controlled media are filling your minds with propaganda. Until someone better than Trump comes along, (there is no one running now) we need to stay with him. He has done more for the country in a short time than Obama did in his eight years as president and this was done without the help of the Democrats. They have been too busy trying to find a way to get rid of Trump because he is for the people and the U.S. We have paid them for three years of doing nothing for the people or our country. Google it. Don’t go by what the TV says.

Thank you.

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Please spell out what your supreme leader has done for this country.


Accomplishment: Created mostly redundant new military agency- Space Cadets.....


Accomplishment: Third President undergoing impeachment.


We prefer Prezidents who don't get impeached.


More Space Force news here: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51160547


Mr. Willis of Landers, I suggest you look into Trump's recent $28-billion farmer bailout. Then go look up the definition of socialism. Now that you are properly informed, maybe you can spare readers of the Star from additional drivel.


B = bingo!


Could you please list the rights that have been taken away?

bill jenkins

alas, mr willis' epistle and vote will go unheeded as trump will not cary california.


He'd done more crimes, that's for sure.


Back in the day we used to call these people "right wing kooks". Now we call them "conservatives". Prayer in schools? Separation of church and state is essential to a true democracy. This sort of totalitarian nonsense should be flushed down the septic along with Trump's neo-Nazi and KKK supporters' ideological claptrap. Being anti-Obama at this stage is just a weak cover for being a racist. The 1% have over 99% of the wealth so it shouldn't be too hard to even the playing field for the rest of America. And I though Archie Bunker was just a joke!


Not much has changed since Norman Lear's "All in the Family" of 70's fame. The Archie Bunker type was pretty typical in those days. Sadly 50 years later it's still relevant.

"Million Mom's" decry: "(censored) that's good" fast food commercial, whilst their adorable little snots drop the F-bomb out of parental earshot.

Perish forbid Million Moms should ever read or watch Shakespeare's "Macbeth" with the scene containing "out (censored) spot". They would protest vociferously AND call the SPCA.

Ignorance is bliss for some.


"Please spell out what your supreme leader has done for this country?" I won't provide you with the complete exhaustive list of the past three years but will name a few that has occurred just this week. USMCA properly spelled out is the United States–Mexico–Canada Agreement signed this week by the senate by a vote of 89-10. Phase One of the U.S.-China trade agreement signed yesterday which pushed the stock market benchmarks to new record levels. "US Space Force redundant"? Debatable but most likely a matter of opinion. But it was implemented with the passage of the 2020 National Defense Authorization Act after two decades of debate and inaction. The "impeachment an accomplishment"? Sorry but that "accomplishment" was made by Nancy Pelosi and her partisan political hacks after three long years of ongoing never ending whining. The "$28-billion farmer bailout fits the description of socialism"? Obviously more like temporary aid partly funded by tariffs to shore up affected farmers involved in the Presidents trade war in which apparently he has won two battles that many skeptics claimed to be "unwinnable". The "bailout" would better fit the description of "crony capitalism" that the socialist loathe. Undoubtedly that "trade war" is turning into a win-win proposition for our farmers, our workers, and our economy. "Socialism" is a permanent gift that keeps giving while simultaneously robs hard working taxpayers and constantly depleting the treasury. "List the rights that have been taken away"? First and Second Amendments rights have been taken away but rightfully restored after lengthy court battles with those who enact the restrictions. District of Columbia vs Heller, McDonald vs City of Chicago, Caetano vs Massachusetts are a few of them. A quick google search will bring many other parental, free speech, and religious rights being infringed and challenged in courts. "Trump will not carry California"? Well good for you. He did not carry it in 2016. You should be proud of California and the way the liberals have made it such a great place to live. Poverty, drug abuse, homelessness, and the criminal element is almost nonexistent in California right? "Right wing kooks", "Nazi's" and "KKK" are terms of endearment that liberals apply to when describing "conservatives" who believe in borders, freedom, religious liberties, individual rights, and accepting the constitution as written. The "1% vs the 99%" bad reference comes from the Marxian economics theory that named the bourgeoisie as the "haves" and the proletariat as the "have nots" which is commonly known as Marxism. The claim that "the 1% have over 99% of the wealth" is off by 60% by the way since the last I heard the 1% owned 40% of the wealth. Karl Marx also had the belief that religion was the opium of the people. Our constitution forbids restricting an individual’s religious beliefs and promoting one religion over others . "Conservatives" believe in free speech, free markets, and states' rights. Liberalism is an ideology that believes in control rather than freedom. Liberals believe in a "living constitution" which means you can interpret it as you desire to fit an agenda. The all encompassing, all smothering liberal nanny state has no use for freedom. The only freedom liberals want to give people is the "freedom" to do as they're told as to compel compliance towards the "common good". The only "freedom" they really express concern about especially here in California are the vagrants, criminals, and illegal aliens. As far as the concerns with the "Million Moms" go, I find it ironic that words like "h*ll" and "d*nm" are strictly forbidden on this adult forum while it is perfectly acceptable on children's television programs. Not only are they are being programed at an early age by watching television but they are being subjected to certain agendas by school teachers that C. Willis mentioned in his letter. School teachers are teaching the liberal concepts of a "living, breathing" constitution and the social advantages of congressional bills such as the "Green New Deal". Ignorance is toxic.


The jury is out on wether the two "deals" tRump has has done are worth the cost. Three years, two accomplishments. The rest of his "accomplishments" are just pure steer manure piled higher and deeper. Trying to save obselete technologies at the expense of the environment and quality of life is worthless.

Tax breaks to the top 10 percent is also not productive or sage. Income inequality is just destroying the productive middle class that enables the rich to get richer, and the poor to get more benefits.

Frankly:. The average consumer and worker has more leverage than any president on trade issues. Be productive at work and carefully choose what you purchase, if it needs to be purchased.

A goodly chunk of the whiners bemoning the standard of living have closets full Chinese made garbage instead of North American made items of better quality. Wages would increase as productivity and full employment of skilled workers increased. It would also free up entry level jobs to the idle youth and unskilled labor force as well as encouraging industry with on-the-job training in tight employment markets.

Agreed:. Ignorance IS toxic! We have President tRump as living proof!


FYI:. That Chinese made garbage is manufactured in a "Special Administration District" in a communist country with a planned economy. It's average citizens have very few rights.

bill jenkins

in the 2016 election 18 of the 20 poorest states went for trump, 9 of the 10 richest states went for hillary. so trump's base is heavily dependent on economically backward states. in order to get reelected, if he runs, he will have to retain the support of these mid 20th century economies. we shall see.


The federal government has assisted farmers since 1862, starting with the Homestead Act, granting land to farmers in the west that were willing to farm it. The Morrill Act of 1862 created the funding for colleges of agriculture. The Agricultural Marketing Act of 1929 was created to prevent prices from crashing, it didn't work. These are examples of "socialism". The western United States expansion was fueled by federal dollars......socialism.

Trump's $28 billion ag bailout is certainly crony capitalism. I personally know a dairy farmer in Idaho who has received more than $950,000 since 1995. Interestingly, he was paid $338,085 in the past two years. These ongoing payments were thru the USDA. This particular dairy herdsman is nowhere close to losing his operation.

TTJ, your long LE career was a function of socialism. Funds were allocated by a governmental body to pay your salary and benefits. Instead of ginning up folks with claims of evil socialism, Willis needs to admit he's benefited from "socialism".

Free markets? You're kidding,right?


In 2008 President Obama inherited a country from the republicans that was in crisis. Our major financial institutions were crashing. At least five banks in Yucca Valley closed their doors. Wall street was tanking, people were loosing their homes and the big three auto makers were going under. Unemployment was at an all time high. President Obama brought us back in spite of total resistance from the republicans. He put regulations in place so it would not happen again. Trump has tore up these safeguards. The wealthy are having a hay day raping the middle class and the crash is looming again. We have a president and an administration that conveys a message that it is ok to lie and cheat if you think you can get away with it. By his actions, he has splashed orange paint all over our constitution and has shattered our democracy. You are supporting a president that said George Washington was a hero for securing all our airports in 1776. How can anyone be so ignorant? Is this who you want leading the free world? It is shameful and it is depressing.


During the last generation capitalism has produced the greatest reduction in global income inequality in history.

Socialist politicians like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren want to expand the government.

They ignore the intellectual, economic and moral bankruptcy of socialism and instead want to find all their solutions in the federal government.

Their god has become the government.

It becomes the perfect answer for any problem.

The state is worshiped.

The individual is sacrificed to the collective.

Freedom and liberty disappear.

Sanders even admits that he does not understand why consumers have choice.

“Why have so many different sodas? Let’s have one. Why have some kinds of shoes? Let’s have one.”

Socialism sets everyone back economically, reduces freedom of choice and individual liberty.

It results in failure and stints growth, innovation, and productivity.

bill jenkins

according to Credit Suisse the fraction of global household wealth held by the richest 1% of the world's population increased from 42.5 to 47.2percent between 2008 and 2018.put another way as of 2010, 388 individuals possessed as much wealth as the lower half of the world's population,3.5 billion people. that 388 is now 26! income inequality is increasing exponentially. left unchecked capitalism, theoretically. results in one person owning everything.


Bill must be getting his fake news from CNN.

"Now in its tenth edition, the Credit Suisse Global wealth report is the most comprehensive and up-to-date source of information on global household wealth. Global wealth grew during the past year, but at a very modest pace. Although wealth per adult reached a new record high of USD 70,850, this is only 1.2% above the level of mid-2018, before allowing for inflation. While more than half of all adults worldwide have a net worth below USD 10,000, nearly 1% of adults are millionaires who collectively own 44% of global wealth. However, the TREND toward INCREASING INEQUALITY HAS EASED, and the share of the top 1% of wealth holders is BELOW the recent peak in 2016."


Curious. Is this good news or bad news for you Bill.

"In Credit Suisse’s annual list of “10 surprises,” global equity strategist Andrew Garthwaite said the S&P could rise another 25%. Other predictions include oil finishing the year as one of the three best-performing sectors, as well as China’s GDP growth rate hitting a three-decade low and the technology sector underperforming.



Tomorrow: TTJ explains how "double Dutch sandwich" and similar help the taxpayer and shareholders.

Stay Tuned!


I rather tell jokes:

A man jumps into a lion's cage to save a 5 year old boy by punching the lion in the nose

Soon, reporters are on the scene.

"Why don't you tell us a bit more about yourself"

"Well, I'm currently a stockbroker, but I got out of the Army only two years ago"

"What do you do for fun"

"I'm an avid fisherman, and I teach rifle safety classes for the NRA"

"Who'd you vote for in the last election"


The next day, the headline reads:



Good Joke! Probably far better than getting depressed over current state of affairs at any rate.

bill jenkins

mathamatitions at Tufts university have constructed a model of market based economies that fits economic data of recent decades almost perfectually,over 99%.

it's a little complicated but quite understandable. the one big takeaway i had was, there is no such thing as trickle down. actually the opposite is true. wealth does not trickle down but indeed transfers up from the poor to the wealthy. how else can you explain while in the last 4 or 5 decades produclivity has doubled while wages have not even begun to keep pace?




Is this and Editorial or a Letter to the Editor? There should be something that tells the readers if this was written by a staff writer or a reader. This is poorly written and poorly placed online with no information as to the credentials of the writer. For all I know from what is seen here it reads like a poorly written paid political ad.

T Twelvetrees

ScreechOwl...This is a letter to the editor according to the opinion drop down menu tab on the home page...


Well, it's IN the "Letters to the Editor" section, and this publication ISN'T Faux NewsCorp so it must be a letter to the editor from the public at large.

You'll have to bide your time for the poorly written political rubbish whilst the politicians resupply their writers with a box of crayons.

Branson Hunter

The fossil fuel industry has a great spokesman for them, Pinocchio, AKA President Trump. At the world economic Forum at Davos, today, Trump Unleashed his hate upon the world. In response to 17 year old climate activists Greta Thundberg, just finishing the opening speech at the economic forum

forum, the POTUS blathered "the heirs of yesterday are today's foolish fortune tellers. Trump is the biggest diversion in human HISTORY.Meanwhile we are not preparing for a livable future. And we are not paying attention to the infrastructure, such as roads, dams, Energy, Water delivery systems, Etc.

Branson Hunter

Huh... the big buffoon on the world stage today at Davos is Trump: the orange president, with foundation plastered all over his face, proclaimed: "[he] rescued the US economy from the deepest depths of misery, one step away from the Second Great Depression." Is there any redeeming value in the poultice?


The great bulk of our taxes goes to the war industry. The Republicans rant against big government and for a balanced budget, but they are they party that spends more and more, gives more tax usts and subsidies to the rich, and increases the deficit - and increases the power of our police state. If we weren't a Warfare State, there would be plenty of tax money for healthcare and all the other aspects of civilization you will find in most developed countries. On top of the devastating Republican program, rump is a mentally diseased would-be dictator.


Opinions are a lot like body parts (located directly behind ones genitals), that everyone has.


Interesting piece and shows that lively, if ill-informed social discourse in America is not entirely yet extinct. My two cents worth its that Mr Willis is adamant that, whether she is or not, his god is the only god, his political views are the only correct ones and his opinions shall brook no dissension. And for reasons yet to be explained, even though he is fully aware that for the last ten years there has been a continuous expansion of the economy, no doubts, no question about it, for reasons only he and his heart can fathom , he has an inability to even believe, let alone acknowledge, that for seven of those years Barack Obama was president. Not suggesting he like or approve that simple truism but merely ask that the merely acknowledge that simple incontrovertible fact. A mind is a terrible thing to close.

bill jenkins

when obama took office the country was loosing 750,000 jobs a month. to come back from that to a healthy expanding economy in just a few years is indeed an accomplishment. the turnaround i think was in less than a year.


Full list of President Trump's accomplishments at the following link.



Forgive me kikihn but I could not find, listed amongst his accomplishments, any mention of his having increased the national debt by $1.5 TRILLION each year he has been in office. Do you have a sensible explanation for this rather serious omission?


It's called "trickle down economic theory". It's on that Russian "Pee tape". tRumps idea of "urine the money".


Perhaps if I may answer that "ill-informed social discourse" question and please correct me if I am wrong and lack "simple truism". That "accomplishment" of increasing our national debt by "$1.5 TRILLION a year" was made by our duly elected nonpartisan members of congress. You know, the ones who have the "power" of the purse and who have the responsibility of "taxation" and control "spending" and who likewise have their own long list of "accomplishments". I too, as I assume you but highly doubt, was very angry when the President signed those latest preposterous spending bills resulting in the increase of our national debt. I suspect many who question concerns about our "national debt" care more about additional costly social justice programs and higher tax burdens than the national debt itself. Any "sensible" suggestions about who would be the best electable qualified candidate either congressional or presidential to support downsizing our bloated government and cut those excessive "tax and spend" policies and make everyone happy? Good luck in attempting to answer that "serious omission".


Two toed joe.Do please forgive the error of my ways in naively believing that no government spending at all could take place unless the President first signs the bill that authorizes the distribution of funds. I stand corrected.


Your naïveness is duly noted and the error of your ways are forgiven. President Ronald Reagan vetoed an appropriations bill in 1982. It was overridden and placed into law without his signature by a 2/3rds majority in both houses of congress. Any luck in suggesting the best electable candidate in ending the excessive tax and spend policies of our bloated government to reduce our national debt? I am pretty sure that $1.5 TRILLION shortfall is a pretty serious concern to both of us right? I am open minded for other options.


I am not here to defend anyone, I just provided the facts regarding President Trump’s accomplishments as requested by other contributors. Budget fact, Congress is tasked with the annual federal budget, it is uniquely responsible for enacting cuts and reforms within the federal government. Of course, the President must sign to enact the budget, however when he doesn’t, Congress blames him for shutting down the government.


Thanx TTJ, Will genuflect in acknowledgement of your gracious forgiveness.The fact that national debt soon to be equal to that as a % of GDP highest since 1947. Most recently balanced by Clinton. Not suggesting Mrs C take over but that his practices be followed. Or Jerry Browns.If the US was a business then right about now the CEO would be calling up his bankruptcy lawyers (For the seventh time) The absurdist elitist tax breaks must be rescinded toot sweet. Defense budget must be slashed. e.g. Don't really need another obsolete aircraft carrier. Perhaps put our representatives on a work/pay related scheme. For example, our rep Paul Cook has not been seen in his district for over three years, has cost.us, at a conservative estimate $10 million over his three years and managed to have a post office renamed...Not exactly value for money...

More accountability in business. How the heights of absurdity have recently been scaled by giving Boeing Executive responsible for debacle a $63 million bonus!

Madness.. Buttegeig seems the most level headed as far as fiscal responsibilty. Easy of course to say what when you are not in power but have to start somewhere..


Bill Clinton may have reduced the "deficit" but he still contributed to the "national debt" albeit at a lower rate than Ronald Reagan. However the "public debt" was decreased by using several hundred billion in social security trust fund dollars injected into the general fund that resulted in a budget surplus. Bill Clinton did have a few run ins with congress over some proposed budget cuts sponsored by Newt and his boys but did manage some compromise after a few government shutdowns. He also managed to fulfill his campaign pledge to “end welfare as we know it” which somehow has eroded over time. I agree that within a few years we will be facing severe austerity. The defense budget can be cut but what must be "slashed" is the ever increasing massive social spending along with the growing cost of entitlements draining our revenues. Usually when defense budgets are cut domestic spending rises two to three times the amount as the cuts. All "tax breaks" can be rescinded by getting rid of the voluminous IRS tax code and reverting to a simple flat tax on both individual and corporate rates. Even with a 90% marginal tax rate on both the corporations and the wealthy many will still manage to legally evade taxes or simply relocate to friendlier tax havens. I last saw "Col. Cook" on November 11th 2019 at the Veterans Day celebration in Twentynine Palms and even spoke to him for a few minutes thanking him for his work assisting fellow veterans and his help resolving a personal issue I had with the IRS last year. Dennis Muilenburg, the "Boeing CEO", did have to forfeit stock awards worth tens of millions of dollars as a result of his poor judgement and handling of the two deadly plane crashes. Yes he did get to keep his earned stock options, his pension, and his deferred pay that had already been vested. If you think the amount is insane consider that Elon Musk is on track to earn a "$50 Billion bonus" in 2028 as long as he maintains "accountability in business" and turns his car company into a $650 Billion enterprise. If that happens it would make any progressive liberal concerned about the "heights of absurdity" suffer nightmares and may result in some having severe mental breakdowns. "Mayor Pete" is no Warren or Sanders but his platform still proposes "trillions in new taxes and massive new spending". Pete Buttegeig is also no Bill Clinton. He portrays himself as a "moderate democrat" when in reality he is a "progressive liberal". At one time a respected moderate democrat once stated: "Our immigration policy is focused in four areas: First, strengthening border control; second, protecting American jobs by enforcing laws against illegal immigrants at the workplace; third, deporting criminal and deportable aliens; fourth, giving assistance to states who need it, and denying illegal aliens benefits for public services or welfare". Wow! William J. Clinton. How times have changed.


Rush Limbaugh receiving "The Medal of Freedom" is equivalent to Trump receiving "The Purple Heart." It is disgraceful beyond words.


I'm with you JJ. The country will be a whole lot better off when Rush fades away; he's just another chickenhawk that fuels a faux patriotism in this country. On the upside, Rush put Snapple on the consumer map.


It was great to see Rush Limbaugh awarded with the Presidential Medal of Freedom and join the ranks of other iconic talk show host awarded the medal such as Oprah and Ellen DeGeneres. His "patriotic" program has outlived both of them and has placed "talk radio" on the "consumer map". "Snapple" ? I thought it was "Two if by Sea" tea. Really sad someone couldn't get even that one right! What would be next? Maybe someone preferring the would to end by a giant meteor rather than seeing the "Donald" reelected? Yep I heard that just today. Keep up the good work!


TTJ, how long have listened to Rush? In the 90's Snapple experienced phenomenal growth thanks to advertising on talk radio, primarily Rush L's show. Thanks to the growth,Snapple was sold to Quaker Oats for $1.7 billion in 1994. I stand by the faux patriotism call, Rush was a lout in the 90's and still is to this day. You from Rio Linda TTJ?


Quaker Oats bought Snapple in 1994 for $1.7 billion and sold it to Triarc in 1997 for $300 million and lost $1.4 billion. It was dumped because of marketing problems and the firing of the "Snapple Lady" Wendy Kauffman. Be real. It is not just Rush Limbaugh and his talk show you hate. It is not just "faux patriotism" you hate. Admit the truth and state the obvious which is hate of the "conservative" philosophy because of the threat it imposes on "liberalism". I am definitely not from Kansas.


Who cares about Quaker Oats. One of the partners that sold to QO netted $900 million. That's the point.....the Snapple sale was made during RL's explosive ratings rise. Radio reps made small fortunes in mid to large markets selling local ad slots. Rush was made into a talk radio giant largely by Reagan's repeal of the Fairness Doctrine in 1987. This meant that the electronic media didn't have to air opposing editorial viewpoints, so some real smart radio guys eventually saw a gold mine in the making. Rush's forte of ginning folks up through thru the use of character assassination worked famously after BC's election in '92. It's always been about ad revenue, not the message.

What's with the hate concern? As a Trump follower, isn't that antithetical?


Obviously you cared about "Quaker Oats" since you mentioned it. The private equity firm of Thomas H. Lee Partners, L.P. that specializes in leveraged buyouts and industry consolidations did earn the "$900 million" in the deal. I like the way you framed it as "one" of the partners as if may have been just one person. "Quaker Oats" sold Snapple just 27 months after spending $1.7 billion for $300 million to Triarc. Bad management led towards its downfall. Triarc purchased Snapple for $300 million and sold it to Cadbury Schwepps for $1.4 billion in 2000 for another $1.1 billion in profit for its investors. "Maha Rushie" had nothing to do with the profit or loss of those corporate transactions. This is one example of the liberal social illusions of the wealthy stealing everyone's wealth. I bet none of that money was yours in that "Quaker Oats" investment. Capital risks does have rewards and if not properly managed does have serious pitfalls. Loved the way you stated "radio ad" reps make "small fortunes". Yes I would agree really smart "radio guys" do make good money and if they didn't I think maybe they would be unemployed real quick. Really smart investors do earn "gold mines" in capitalistic societies. A few corporations like "Quaker Oats" do occasionally lose "gold mines" and again thankfully the money was not yours nor mine unless you had shares. Fairness Doctrine? There are as many if not more liberal radio and television talk show programs as there are conservative. I bet your preference would be such notables as Brian Stelter, Randi Rhodes, Mike Malloy,Thom Hartman, Stephanie Miller, Wolf Blitzer, Chris Cuomo, Don Lemon, Rachael Maddow, Chuck Todd, Lawrence O'Donnell or the many other supposedly "unbiased" liberal TV and radio talk show hosts. I suppose they would never resort towards any political efforts to "gin up" folks or ever deal in "character assassination" or avoid "opposing editorial viewpoints" right? I also assume NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, and MSNBC are experts at presenting the real "message" and never have any real concerns about "ad revenues" right? What's with the hate concern? Obviously you hate the "conservative" philosophy because of the threat it imposes on the spread of "liberalism". Now all you have to do is say "who cares about liberalism" and we can probably take it from there.


TTJ, you're going off the rails today. Quaker Oats means nothing to me, the buyer could have been Brand X Co., it really doesn't matter. I have no agenda against QO. Thomas Lee Investments bought Snapple from its founders, took the company public, then sold two years later. Lee and investors reaped $900 million. That pass muster? Is every thing a conspiracy in your world? RL's success is directly tied to the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine. This allowed Rush to go on vile personal attacks that he's legendary for. I'm sure homophobes in listener land loved it when Rush bagged on Barney Frank, with the song Lollipop playing in the background. Great stuff for ratings. In the 90's I lived in one of the most conservative regions in the US, think Amway. At that time I worked for one of the largest and most profitable media corporations in the country, so I spent considerable time listening to Rush and Liddy. One day Rush decided to denigrate a one-time( 3 term+) repub. governor of a midwestern state because his wife supported Planned Parenthood. It was some of the most vile garbage uttered by a human directed towards another. Of course Rush didn't have the juice to direct his venom at Barbara Bush, also a PP supporter at the time. Bottom line, Rush has had a wonderful career selling sugar water, rep. ties, ect. But beyond that, his divisive style and character assassinations in no way warrant a M of F. The world knows it was a sham. Of the notables you cite, I'm only familiar with six, and I'm highly doubtful they have reached the level of vileness RL.


Lets review. "Rush put Snapple on the consumer map". Wrong. A contrived conspiracy theory. "Rush was made into a talk show radio giant largely by the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine in 1987". Wrong again. Another contrived conspiracy theory. The parody "Banking Queen" was labeled as "homophobic" by the liberal media in an interview with Barney Frank. Rush responded to the innuendo by playing "My Boy Lollipop" with appropriate sound effects in the background to demonstrate the difference between a "political parody" and a "homophobic song" and the rest is history. While it is true that Rush does go on "personal attacks" against liberal political rivals on his talk show but the same is true on all "political" talk shows and "vile garbage" is used by many in our world of politics. I used to listen to the liberal "Air America" radio programs that was initiated as a response towards popular "conservative" talk radio but it went bankrupt because "liberalism" does not "sell" very well. And again yes Rush does have strong pro life convictions and does attack even those who support abortion within his own party. Barbara Bush was never in any political office but I am sure if she had ran for any political office her support of planned parenthood would be called out. It is quite permissive for anyone to object to a "divisive style" and "character assassination". I find it quite humorous that many who object to the use of "character assassination" and "division" utilize it quite frequently themselves in our world of politics wouldn't you agree? Hint, hint. An opinion that the awarding of the Presidential Medal of Freedom presented to Rush Limbaugh for his contribution to talk radio as a "sham" understandably can be considered as obvious political bias. I distinctly remember a President that was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize eleven days after taking office and also thought it was a "sham" when he was "rewarded" it a few months later. I wonder if the "world knows it was a sham". The truth is the "level of vileness" and "divisive style" has always existed in politics and always will be.


Before FD repeal there were approx. 125 radio talk shows of various reach and content, while after repeal the number blossomed to 2,000. Coincidence, I guess.

Snapple was a regional product until it decided to pump up their ad budget and contract with bottlers around the country. A large portion of the budget went to electronic media, like Rush and Howard Stern. The trade journals covered this at the time. Both shows' existence would cease if ad dollars started drying up. RL still has zillions of listeners, but has lost market share since the Fluke flub. Thankfully for RL, Trump came along , bringing fresh red meat for his listeners. RL's creators saw a perfect storm in 1990-92: a failing Bush (no new taxes), a guy named Perot, Desert Storm, and the emergence of Bill and Hill. Basically chaos. They came up with an unimaginable successful business model. In RL's case, it's unfortunate he felt the need to play to homophobes and call young women sluts, to satisfy his fans. He's still grossly unfit for the M of F.

OB seemed surprised or more aptly chagrined when awarded the NPP. He gave the $1.4 million to charity. I too, thought it odd that he received the award. And yes, the NPP committee turned the award into a sham in 2009. Probably a conspiracy.

You're right, vileness in politics in politics is a given. Our P Grabber in the WH, and ole Rusty have sure taken us to astronomical heights. I'm out.

FYI TTJ, there's an op/ed in the latest National Review you might enjoy.


I would argue that the repeal of the FD led to the increase of radio talk shows of various reach and content and not a coincidence but our discourse would never end. Did you enjoy reading the article in NR by VDH on RL? Thanks! I'm out too.

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